their ownership of certain things out of the public sphere that's the regulation you're talking about jon i do not understand how that is anything but regulation of speech of censorship ok i mean if i want to show that i mean it looks to me i mean it's key to the murdoch case here i mean the murdoch people are apparently are in bed with the politicians in bed with the police there's allegations of dealing with criminals ok i mean we can all talk about the principle of freedom of speech but i mean what do we do about that i mean how can you make sure through some kind of regulation that we don't have a repeat of that again because all of those elements are very unhealthy i think we'd all agree to that go ahead john. broadly speaking i don't think i would call for a government regulations specifically in the case of the phone hacking scandal i think there needs to be a new professional organization that allows for self-regulation the existing self-regulation mechanism here in the u.k. is obviously broken but i do think in general the press has been is a nice to have a great deal in the pres